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Encyclopedia Dramatica Party Policy on The Second Amendment, the Police State, and the MIC

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    Given recent events such as the Aurora Colorado Theater Shooting, The Encyclopedia Dramatica Party has been compelled not to just address policy regarding the second amendment in its entirety, but the structure of the United States armed forces, the military industrial complex, and the “Police State.” The reason the Encyclopedia Dramatica Party includes these complex and seemingly unrelated issues together is because our position on these topics are related and intertwined.

    Second Amendment
    The text of the Second Amendment as passed by Congress states: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” The meaning of this text is clear and apparent. We at the Encyclopedia Dramatica Party don’t simply support the right of all law abiding citizens to purchase pistols and rifles, but heavy weaponry such as RPGs, tanks, and attack helicopters in order for them to form well regulated militias. We realize this policy sounds extreme and dangerous, but on further explanation and articulation, is quite reasonable.

    While the Encyclopedia Dramatica Party supports the universal legalization of weaponry and ammunitions (ULWA), this does not mean we desire or will allow for all citizens to carry around assault rifles or drive around in Bradley Fighting Vehicles in public areas. We realize that such an armed society with unbridled freedoms would lead to endless violence, petty revenge, and lawlessness – all of which are detrimental to a mature society and civilization. In order for liberty and freedoms to be properly enjoyed, freedom must be restrained for we humans still lack the discipline to implement an anarchist-sense of liberty. Instead we must accept limitations of how we implement the ULWA much like how we plan to implement the Universal Legalization of Mind Altering Substances (ULMAS).

    1) The ULWA does not mean private individuals can parade around public areas with rifles and APCs (except in parades with the militia). Such behavior is finable and should/will attract negative attention of militia, since part of their duty is to make sure such individuals do not cause problems other than cause attention.

    1a) Repeat offenders are fined heavily until the third time which will result in confiscation. An exception to this rule is if gun owners are bringing firearms to the shooting range, though evidence (aka tickets) must be provided you are going/returning from a shooting range. Tickets can be bought ahead of time at ranges or printed online.

    1b) The largest caliber weapon that is allowed to be carried in public areas (which is anything other than private property between consenting adults) by private individuals is a .357 caliber pistol.

    2) The ULWA does not mean that everyone has the privilege to purchase firearms. Due to the pervasiveness of the ULWA policy, regulations regarding the selling weapons will become much stricter and include physiological tests (with means that determine psychopathic violence as distinct from nationalistically driven violence/a sense of duty). These physiological tests are to be taken semi-annually and quarterly inspections on private individuals and militia’s inventories (to check if smuggling is happening).

    2a) Individuals with more than four firearms of any caliber are to be individuals subject to smuggling investigation. All militias are subject to inspections as well.


    2b) Additional mandatory training for private citizens who wish to arm themselves above light sidearms will be trained in IFF (identification of Friend or Foe) and situational awareness training.

    3) Malevolently intended firearm violence and weapons smuggling is a zero tolerance policy crime. One offense and you are sent to prison with a minimum of fifteen years with no chance of parole.

    4) The ULWA does not mean private individuals are allowed to bring their regulated sized pistols into all public areas; one such example is movie theaters. The darkness and cramped quarters of movie theaters make the ULWA more dangerous, and thus cannot be allowed. Society is full of public places that even well intended citizens should not be armed; such locations are places where security officers should be stationed.

    For example, in movie theaters, private citizens and militia members are required to check in their pistols at the entrance of movie theaters into weapons lockers, much like how women have to sometimes check in their purses at locations. Police are stationed outside such locations to guard against any occurrence of violence. And in places such as malls, private citizens can be allowed to carry pistols within, but have them visibly displayed. If violence breaks out, armed private citizens are able to defend unarmed private citizens as Police stationed within the mall can rush in to deal with the violence.


    4a) We support conceal and carry

    5) Mandate various levels of surveillance on individuals with access to biological, genetic, and chemical laboratories. In a new of rapid technological progress, a chemical weapon or virus is even more deadly than a tank. It is important to treat such technology as a potential weapon and heavily regulate the environment in which these potential weapons can be created.

    The “Police State”
    A society that requires generating revenue for the budget of the State through fines enforced through police forces is in essence a “Police State.” This sort of “Police State” is undesirable by all factions within the Encyclopedia Dramatica Party, especially by the fascist faction. The Encyclopedia Dramatica Party believes there is too many security officers in the United States and these forces are not being used intelligently to prevent crimes.

    1) Since the Encyclopedia Dramatica Party supports ULWA, we believe through this process of increasing the violence of private citizens/militia/police towards criminal enterprises (as well as increasing economic opportunities) is the only means of removing crime from society, except for the crimes of the insane: those who murder for murder’s sake, those who rape for rape’s sake, etc. There are no effective means to defend against these people, except in the case of making sure they don’t commit their petty atrocities on a grand scale.

    In the case of murder, mass murderers will strike at public areas that will result in the most causalities, and thus police should be stationed there to minimize causalities. In places that are not highly public areas, it is the responsibility of every citizen to defend themselves for that is when criminals such as rapists or serial killers will strike. At the end of the day, if you cannot defend yourself, who can?

    1a) Laws don’t stop criminals, and even if criminals couldn’t acquire firearms, they still would use some other weapon to use against you. As a citizen, you are authorized to terminate with extreme prejudice against criminals who wish to violate you or your property. We have not decided an appropriate set of rules of engagement for this policy, but we want to display this is our policy.

    2) In order to have the right to purchase and carry around a pistol in public areas, all private citizens are required to take mandatory marksmen classes. Individuals with no training with firearms are not a means of security or a self policing society, but a liability. The licensing of firearms will require training and certification in accordance with the grade of weapon(s) being licensed.

    3) Since police are now limited to preventing violent massacres, guarding specific locations, and solving crimes, this means we can reduce the police force significantly. The Encyclopedia Dramatica Party believes that being a uniformed citizen is a privilege, not a job for some high school bully who grew up and couldn’t find work elsewhere. The scaling back on the size of the police will focus on meritocracy, incorruptibility, and appropriate remuneration. Police officers who are upright and hardworking have nothing to fear about losing their job. The desired result will be to have a higher paid, higher trained, and happier police force who deliver a more effective solution to the public.

    3a) Corruption of security officials is treason of trust of the citizens who security officials are supposed to defend. And as a form of treason, the punishment for corruption will be equal in severity to that of treason.

    4) Police brutality is too common of an occurrence and it generally comes down to “he said, she said” hearsay. This hurts a lot of innocents on both sides. The Encyclopedia Dramatica Party plans to implement policy that requires that all police officers once outside of the station must be required to wear video recording headsets that stream video to a databank which collects all footage in case it needs to be used to prove the innocence of a police officer or a victim of police brutality.

    5) The Encyclopedia Dramatica Party supports further surveillance on roads as a means of reporting accidents and handling insurance claims. This increased surveillance in public areas is not designed as a means of fining people who violate traffic rules, except in the case of when violating traffic rules results in an accident, in which fines will be enforced.

    5a) Since part of this surveillance is for the benefit of insurance companies, they are expected to fund the maintenance of all these cameras and the limited personal managing them.

    6) There are numerous enforcement and intelligence agencies in the United States, it is unnecessary for all of them to exist – their limited autonomy prevents streamlined efficiency. The existence of multiple agencies that have job overlaps requires the State to pay for more employees than needed.

    6a) The Encyclopedia Dramatica Party policy is to merge all existing agencies into two large bureaus: The State Security Department (SSD) and State Intelligence Department (SID). The SSD will absorb agencies such as US Customs, Border Patrol, TSA, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, US Marshals, DEA, ATF, etc. into one single umbrella organization based on enforcement of laws and the defense of waterways, infrastructure, congested public areas, borders, aerospace, and cyberspace. The SID will absorb agencies such as the CIA, NSA, DIA, and FBI into a single umbrella organization whose job is intelligence gathering, solving interstate crimes, and preventing terrorism.

    6b) This will by no means be a repeat of the Department of Homeland Security. Agencies will be restructured into more logical vertical groupings, allowing these two newly formed agencies to focus on their mission statements instead of fighting turf wars, which only hurt the citizens they serve. The Encyclopedia Dramatica Party realizes that there will be considerable hostile reaction from the already existing fiefdoms, so let us state this: “Politics is about making right policy, not policy that will make you win. Sometimes one has to crack heads to make progress. The people will not mind cracking the heads of cronies and jackboot thugs who have entrenched themselves into the State in order to make way for progress of security for the benefit of the citizens they are designed to serve.”

    7) Nationalize the prison system. For profit prisons intentionally increase crime through political lobbying efforts. As a political party that idealizes itself as the party of freedom and liberties, for profit prisons are the single greatest threat to our liberty.

    Armed Forces and the Military Industrial Complex

    Part of the reason for there to be the ULWA and militia is that it reduces the amount of money the State needs to defend itself. The greatest benefit of a militia is that they will pay out of their own pockets to arm themselves, thus the State can divert its limited resources from occupying ground forces to more productive and useful military matters.

    1) Reduced the budget of the Army by at least 50%. There is no need for stationing troops in Germany or in most of the world. It is time to recall our armed forces from everywhere besides South Korea and the numerous regional bases that support Israel, and bring the rest of them back to the United States. Once they have returned, arm them with shovels and heavy construction equipment, and gradually reduce the role of the Army from a military force to an engineering force that is armed. Soldiers who are capable of learning more complex engineering skills will be trained to learn such and advance in responsibility within the Army.

    1a) The Army’s new purpose is to develop State-wide infrastructure projects that make the United States economically competitive in a global market. If American businesses are to compete in a market against countries in which five dollar an hour wages are decent, the State must reduce the fixed costs of business in order to protect American workers' salaries.

    1b) Rent this engineering corps out to other nations to recover from natural disasters, build infrastructure, and adapt to climate change

    2) Reduce the Navy’s and Air Force’s budget by at least 15% in each sector. The purpose is to eliminate sectors that are no longer relevant to our current strategic long term objectives. Merge the Navy and Air Force with NASA. Increase the consolidated budget by 25% for new technologies and sectors such as reduced gravity technologies, nuclear fusion, and planet terraforming.

    2a) The real enemies of humanity are no longer other nations, but the great unknowns beyond our solar shores. It is time for our species to realize this and begin to expand our species towards the great unknown and prepare for any hostile intentions: whether it is environmental or another sapient species; our species needs to focus on those as being the new threats. In order to deal with mainly asteroids and potentially alien threats, weapons technological development must be further pushed. An asteroid cannot be made dead, it needs to be utterly destroyed to be neutralized.

    2b) Not all means of defense will come in the form of weapons. Magnetic shielding and cold/hot/cold plasma force fields are not simply a means of defense against the greatest threat in our solar system, the sun, but such technology will be necessary for terraforming objectives on Mars.

    2c) Privatization of space is ideal, but while our species is still in its infancy stages regarding space technology and travel, only the State has the means of funding the exploration, commercialization, and colonization of space. While such policy will be seen as many as unnecessary financial spending, this statement is only help by ignorant people. The commercialization of space will ultimately be the fourth industrial revolution. Not only is asteroid mining profitable, it is necessary and will be comparatively more inexpensive (in actual costs and environmental costs) to terrestrial mining. Also manufacturing in space is not only faster and reduces fixed costs due to lack of gravity, some products are stronger when constructed in zero gravity.

    2d) Even if asteroid mining proves to be somehow unprofitable, the exploration of space greatly increases the likelihood of finding caches of wrecked alien technology, which if found could advance the species' technology decades in a matter of years. Such a discovery along would justify any exploration costs.

    3) If other nations/foreign groups backed by nations wish our nation harm, it is not the role of the army to invade and occupy, but the responsibility of the merged Navy/Air Force/NASA to indiscriminately bomb our enemies. After the target is destroyed, planes will drop leaflets in that area, informing the populace that bombing campaigns will continue as long as their nation/peoples tolerate the existence of forces hostile towards our interests. That if you want the bombings to stop, deal with our enemies and you won't be ours.

    4) Nationalization the weapons manufacturing aspects of manufacturing giants such as Lockheed or GE. The privatization of weapons munitions companies has led to an out of control cycle of war that can only be properly leashed under the control of the State. Given that the purpose of war has changed, that the production of weapons of war to remain in the hands of corporations, whose only loyalty is to profit, cannot be trusted not to meddle in foreign affairs as they have many times in our history. For the State has no desire for war or struggle against unimportant targets, such as other nations.

    The power of the military industrial complex is impossible to stop, it can only be controlled and redirected to more valuable targets, such as the imperialist conquest of unclaimed resources and territories throughout our solar system (the space industrial complex).



    So lets discuss the specifics I proposed @Helix @Stormtrooper @Solution @scumhook @The Lieutenant @Moscow since all of you have been productive policy proposers so far and rightfully merit a seat at the table

    This thread is a continuation of this thread https://forum.encyclopediadramatica.se/threads/zaiger-for-president.9109/
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  3. Dr. Rice Girlvinyl

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    This displays how little you know. Things are going to change around here.
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  4. Dr. Rice Girlvinyl

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    Though this is sort of funny since I was a dominate voice in a model UN (I was Turkey's Environment Minister lololol) when we competed in a project nationally.
  5. xXtryingtoohardXx Dramacrat

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    Indeed they are, Mein Space Fuhrer. If Zaiger runs, the ideal choice for a running mate would be you or possibly Evers. I'd say weev, but I don't think he can run with his arrest.
  6. xXtryingtoohardXx Dramacrat

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    Indeed they are, Mein Space Fuhrer. If Zaiger runs, the ideal choice for a running mate would be you or possibly Evers. I'd say weev, but I don't think he can run with his arrest. If he can, than I'm all for it.
  7. xXtryingtoohardXx Dramacrat

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    oh crap i didnt mean to double post.
  8. Helix resident stoner

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    There are "factions"? Could you elaborate on those a little bit?
  9. Gregor Dramacrat

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    So what's stopping minorities from getting guns?
  10. Dr. Rice Girlvinyl

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    The Encyclopedia Dramatica Party has a standard and specific standard doctrine. Policy outside of that doctrine is up to whatever that local ED candidate decides it to be. As we are all going to have disagreements on many smaller things, why not decide on standard policy?

    For example, as a fascist, I want to abolish the stock market, though I would never try to push that as standard policy (though pushing for abolishing the commodities and currency markets are another matter). I can imagine a great deal of neo-liberals who would be adamantly opposed to that.

    also I am not really against the theory of federal reserves, but there are many libertarians who are. I encourage a diversity of opinions and ideologies going into this party because 1) I view fascism as ultimately a transitional government; 2) the fasci itself is strong because of many different sticks that make it the fasci
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  11. lulzbomb Girlvinyl

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    That sounds pretty good.

    What Ideas do you have for further economic growth?

    IE. Using a system of tax cuts to encourage hiring. ,or using tax hikes to discourage Outsourcing ,and overseas accounts.
  12. Stormtrooper EDF Elite

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    You raise quite a few salient and valid points, Dr, Rice. Your policies on the defense budget and re-allocation of service members is fiscally sound. As long as we can agree that displaced veterans can work other government jobs, like our rebranded Homeland Security division, then you have my vote.

    Speaking on that, as another cost saving measure, I think we need to incorporate all these bureaus, like US Customs, Border Patrol, TSA, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, US Marshals, DEA, ATF etc into one giant umbrella organization, the State Security Department.

    The SSD will be tasked with the security, good order and discipline of our citizenry, and the defense of our waterways, borders and aerospace/cyber-space.

    The CIA, NSA, DIA and FBI will make up the SID, or State Intelligence Department.

    By moving pre-existing assets and re-branding /consolidating them, we can save the State quiet a few dollars, and ensure that our vets have gainful employment, thus re-solidifying their love for the State.
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  13. lulzbomb Girlvinyl

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    Why not re brand it all under SSD . Intelligence is a important part Security,and it would be one less organization to fund.
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    Excellent! Also I can't believe I forgot this, thank you for reminding me. I will rework this into the OP in the next 24 hours

    Intelligence is different than enforcement and would require a different kind of individual.
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  15. lulzbomb Girlvinyl

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    Good point
  16. Moscow EDF Elite

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    my thoughts in red. hope it helps. I'd be interested in your foreign policy- given how mitt romney has just shown his to be a load of shit.
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  17. Helix resident stoner

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    This all looks good, really good. I just have one question and one concern. The question being, when we have settled on our policy, what is the next step? And of course, the concern being how are we going to get people behind us? It doesn't matter how much sense we make, people don't like change. As far as I know, if you don't identify as a Republican or a Democrat, nobody will even take you seriously. The bulk of the public is too stupid to listen anyways, they've been conditioned to think that the current way of doing things is the best and only way. Plus, the media will most definitely not be on our side.
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  18. Dr. Rice Girlvinyl

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    I and a few others are working on the next step and based on how things are developing as planned, this is only a minor step (though still lots of hardwork). Currently, developing a platform is priority number one.
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    Will review tomorrow and change OP to reflect some of your suggestions.
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    I updated the OP with pieces. I think it is fine other than grammatical errors, syntax, and unperfect rhetoric, which I will pick up in the next round of edits due to recommendations of policy. So let the discussion begin again.

    Also since @minty is playing a role with helping me achieve the objective mentioned by @Helix in post #17, I would like to get @minty's opinion on all of this. Since she is an individual who is not a sysop or a fascist who has access to the leaked documents, I would like to hear a fresh opinion on such matters. Also a video

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